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When I hear OVH I immediately think about their burning datacenters …

You guys have backups, right?

Yeah … vapoware like the roadster.


I wouldn't be too shocked if they're real. They aren't going to be making humanoid robots that actually are useful and don't price 99% of people out of buying them and they have to come out with something new eventually.

And they can copy a lot of features from the better, cheaper chinese cars and just sell them for 3x as much in the american market because they have no competition here and the chinese are barred from selling their cars here.

Still, even if the are real it doesn't mean their company should be valued at 21x Ford's value, or even 1x Ford's.


I'd say they're as real as the $35K Cybertruck Musk promised us (not that many of us wanted it).


Exactly! That's a perfect analogy.


There are 50$ smart phones that could do that …


There's more "cost" to an 81 y/o person picking up their first smartphone than just the money they'll be spending.


Well context is important and this was in directly response to the (spurious strawman) claim that if you can't spend $500 on a phone then you are excluded from society.


Yea I'd argue even less. You can get a used android phone w/ shipping for $15 on ebay. A new android phone for $30!

That's the price of one meal at a restaurant...


What a joke … Meta making billions and saving millions by not brewing their own stuff can not give more than some national fund.


FUBAR, I would vote for that


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Pandora solved this problem nearly 20 years ago an Spotify with all its money and engineers do such a bad job, it’s beyond absurd.


Peter is already a multimillionaire — he had an exit a few years ago for around $100 million. By his own account, he's spending $10,000+ per month on LLM tokens and other development costs. As long as OpenClaw stays open source and it remains possible to use all providers, this is totally fine by me.

Honestly, Anthropic really dropped the ball here. They could have had such an easy integration and gained invaluable research data on how people actually want to use AI — testing workflows, real-world use cases, etc. Instead, OpenAI swoops in and gets all of that. Massive missed opportunity.


Spamming people on GitHub who favorited OpenClaw with your bullsh*t emails.

Great work.

You are now banned where ever I work.


Opencast is a very capable … gun. You can really do amazing stuff with it, but it can be incredibly damaging.


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