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Indeed. It would be difficult to make person understand something if their salary depends on not understanding it.

And that threshold would set someone in among richest 1 percent in the world.

Because it is mostly true? I've seen wealth and happiness in society a lot more than poverty and happiness.

All that will still be available just not in main zig repo. Someone may have asked same question about LLVM when GNU compiler exist.

Doing Kubernetes like doing Agile is mandatory nowadays. I've been asked to package a 20 line worth of bash script as docker image so it can be delivered via CI/CD pipeline via Kubernetes pods in cloud.

Value is not that I got job done at a day's notice. It is black mark that I couldn't package it as per industry best practices.

Not doing would mean out of job/work. Whether it is happening correctly is not something decision makers care as long it is getting done anyhow.


In my 20+ years in the industry, I've been at one company which really did Agile, and that was the one I started with.

Everyone else is communicating they are doing Agile while being very far away from it ;)


if anyone knew what agile is maybe more would have a chance if making it work (it won’t). in my 30* the only “process” that worked and works is “hire the right people and get the F out of the way.”

That's pretty much what agile is :)

It depends on your situation of course, but there are a lot of good reasons to package up that bash script and run it through the pipeline. If everyone does some backdoor deployment of their snowflake shell script that's not great. It doesn't matter if it's 20 lines or 2 lines.

There are many organizations which still ship software without Kubernetes. Perhaps even the vast majority.

Of course. I used to think I am working for one such organization for long time. Until leadership decided "modernization" as top priority for IT teams as we are lagging far.

I don't think there are any other industry best practices you could have followed.

That's basically why k8s is so compelling. It's tech is fine but it's a social technology that is known and can be rallied behind, that has consistent patterns that apply to anything you might dream of making "cloud native". What you did to get this script available for use will closely mirror how anyone else would also get any piece of software available.

Meanwhile conventional sys-op stuff was cobbling together "right sized" solutions that work well for the company, maybe. These threads are overrun with "you might not need k8s" and "use the solution that fits your needs", but man, I pity the companies doing their own frontiers-ing to explore their own bespoke "simple" paths.

I do think you are on to something with there not being food taste making, with not good oversight always.


To be honest no genius every existed under sun. What did Newton do? Just applied some common sense. If apple is not flying away there has to be some force pulling it down, he just named it gravity. What did Einstein do? Using Riemann geometry to already prevailing ideas. Not much of genius, using already invented things I'd say. What did Edison do? If one conducts thousand failed experiment a few might succeed. It doesn't take a genius to get that. And so on and on.

Huh, courtesy of scale is because of 50 million customers were convinced that iPhone has quality enough to pay premium over 100s of other phone models. No one is stopping Dell, Acer, Asus, Samsung etc of the world to put order of 50 million widgets and get best quality at cut throat price.

> No one is stopping Dell, Acer, Asus, Samsung etc of the world to put order of 50 million widgets and get best quality at cut throat price.

That’s why I argue that’s something Apple does different. Dell, Acer, Asus, Samsung go to a manufacturer and ask them to make what they know they can make, preferably at cut throat price, while Apple goes there and says “we think you can make this, too; let’s discuss how we can get there, and how much money you’ll need for it”.

Of course, reality is more nuanced. Samsung, for instance, experiments a lot with folding displays (I expect Apple does, too, but is not satisfied with them yet), but I think it is correct in the large picture. Other manufacturers would say “we need a laptop body; let’s see who can build them, and what quality they have, Apple says “we want a laptop body made of one piece of aluminum; let’s see who we can work with to make that possible”.

And yes, having loads of money and high-margin products helps in that regard, but as I said and the post I reply to seems to acknowledge, that’s not sufficient.


Indeed, and if we pay that courtesy to it's original owner then Steve Jobs was the "genius" behind that. Tim Cook inherited the empire, and steered the resources Jobs left for him.

> No one is stopping Dell, Acer, Asus, Samsung etc of the world to put order of 50 million widgets and get best quality at cut throat price.

I don't think you are familiar with Samsung's ball game, including them in a list like this.


Samsung literally makes and sells a lot of those displays to Apple. What are you talking about

Big difference is comparing to sports is millions of people can see with their own eyes the performance of a player in arena. All motivated media can't create a narrative of brilliance when bad performance is there to see.

In case Jony Ive or others like him, we simply do not know how many dozens or hundreds of very talented engineers and designers worked relentlessly under him so he can do beautiful presentations in British English.

Another person comes to my mind is Marissa Meyers. "Brilliant Executive" known for keeping Google Home page clean that's visited by billion people. But we all know how great she was when ended up at Yahoo.


I worked with both, I very much know why Marissa was consiered a fake and Ive's very small team of 10 was considered the best in the industry.

Its all also well published and covered fact. I am genuinely shocked someone could have such a insistantly foolish take.


Like blowing hundred billion dollars for undifferentiated technology?

"Designing AI Pin has been the greatest privilege of my life. I'd rank it higher than anything I did before"

You buy that? If he really did say that, it's just a mixture of cope and a passive aggressive attempt at a jab.

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