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I can reliably reproduce the issue by asking the MDM to list updates on the client. That puts the device in a bad state until the next reboot.

But even without the MDM taking action, the client can enter this state as long as it's enrolled in the MDM. My guess is there a background download/check that happens at an unspecified interval.


So this is an MDM-specific issue, then? The headline here on HN seems to imply it's an OS-wide issue that would affect all Big Sur users.



Yes, I'm sure. MDM does have a feature to defer updates (which is a mess on its own) but that's not what is happening here. The MDM can see the update, but attempting to install it fails. The logs clearly indicate that the client tries and fails the download.


Fleetsmith has always been one of the only two commercial products I've endorsed for Mac management. They do great work and have the right vision.

I work a lot in this space on https://micromdm.io/ an open source service, and have industry experience doing device management at various organizations.


How does this compare with Jamf in your experience?


> Fleetsmith has always been one of the only two commercial products I've endorsed for Mac management.

What's the other commercial MDM product you endorsed? There seems to be quite a few dozens of commercial MDM providers out there.[1]

> They do great work and have the right vision.

Can you elaborate?

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mobile_Device_Manageme...


Thanks for sharing your take on this from a unique vantage point.


And thanks for the downvote! Will never again thank anyone with unique insights to take their time and offer perspective on this forum again!


What's the other one, out of curiosity?


Can you tell me the other one?


SimpleMDM


According to Wikipedia, SimpleMDM doesn't provide "Device Lockdown" and "Expense Management", whereas there are some vendors provide all (all green in a row). [1]

Also as far as I know, SimpleMDM pricing[2] is not the cheapest in the market either, their feature set is similar to Mosyle's, but Mosyle's cheaper.[3]

[1:] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mobile_Device_Manageme...

[2]: https://simplemdm.com/pricing/

[3]: https://business.mosyle.com/pricing


Picking products based on feature checklists is how people end up buying horrible enterprise software, and then spend enormous resources trying to make it work. Doing everything implies not doing anything well.

SimpleMDM doesn't try to do everything, as the name implies, but instead they focus on doing what they do extremely well.


If you been in an enterprise RFP process, you will understand "Picking products based on feature checklists" is commonly being done to compare software products because if you don't provide the feature that your competitors provide, you are pretty much out of the competition.


My experience has been that my MBP gets hot if I try to share a specific window. Switching from a window as a source, to a full screen source has improved OBS performance quite a bit.

And I do use this plugin.


Tangentially related, I've seen that behaviour with Google Meet as well. Sharing a specific tab takes a much bigger performance hit than sharing the whole screen.


Tab sharing has code deep into the Blink rendering engine... To the extent that it's actually possible to share a specific <div> or other HTML element, even if it isn't visible! (Not sure if you can do that from javascript, but you can totally do it from C++)

The side effects seems to be that a bunch of the code that prevents the same thing being re-rendered with every frame if it hasn't changed gets bypassed, and I'd bet that kills performance.


Knowing what the Fullstory product is I'm a bit un-interested in what they're doing with cool new technologies. This is a bit like reading how palantir is using Kubernetes.


I wouldn't mind reading about how Palantir uses Kubernetes :-)


The download comes from dl.google.com while the checksum is published on golang.org.

FWIW the macOS pkg you download is signed.



> When a device goes missing and can’t connect to Wi-Fi or cellular—for example, a MacBook left on a park bench—it begins periodically broadcasting the derived public key Pi for a limited period of time in a Bluetooth payload. By using P-224, the public key representation can fit into a single Bluetooth payload.

This is clever, and the reason Apple chose P-224 specifically.


Facebook has since transfered the project to the Linux Foundation, and the group behind osql is largely the same group of maintainers on the current osquery.

https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press-release/2019/06/the-li...


This is great news! Thank goodness that something like the Linux Foundation exists; this is a perfect piece of software for it to absorb.


The osquery foundation is just getting started and holding office hours, you're welcome to join! https://github.com/osquery/foundation


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