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I don't see any sense in trusting the US more than China. There are arguably as many arguments to say the US is horrible as the current dominant country as China would be. If anything, a multipolar world would be more positive, specially to the EU, as currently the EU is just US's bitch, and has to live by appeasing Mr. Donny, as done in the stupid trade deal signed by Von Der Leyen.

Also, feeling the opening of the internet as a mistake show the degree of your ignorance, people from third world countries also have the right to speak as much as you do, your opinion is not more valid than anyone else's.

For context, I am Italian-Brazilian, so I pretty much have been exposed to both sides (western and non-western, even though we can argue that Brazil is more west aligned).


Particularly I believe that Satoshi Nakamoto is a nation-state who created Bitcoin to bypass sanctions. Simple as that.


I tend to think this, too. Or rather a small group of cryptographers working for a nation-state. It's the only way to make sense of the fact that Satoshi is enormously wealthy. I don't think any individual could sit on this kind of wealth and not cash out visibly.


Satoshi may also be unable to cash out simply because they are dead.


I tend to agree, but for the sake of argument: it’s possible that he’s such a true believer that he’d see cashing out as a betrayal. Alternatively, he might understand that cashing out would significantly aid the (clearly large number of) people engaged in unmasking him. Further, he may simply realize that liquidating holdings of his size would drastically alter the market in ways that could end with the whole thing coming apart.


Keep in mind that he could not have cashed out his tokens in the early days without destroying the whole project and by the time btc was valuable and liquid enough for him to sell, he would have already been wealthy from blockstream (if this is really him) and wouldn’t need the money. What would he do with it? buy gold, real estate, tbills? What asset would he ever put the money into that he would think is better than bitcoin?


I've subscribed to the nation-state theory as well, but intentions unknown.


It was the CIA and anyone who aren't starry eyed tech dorks has known this forever


The skills would be at the NSA for this project


The CIA has been involved in cyber operations since like the 50's and more offensively post 9/11 and it's only grown since. Google Vault 7, and the Center for Cyber Intelligence (CCI) which has over 5,000 employees which has been coined the departments "own NSA" but with even less accountability.

This is obviously that which we know of and we're both essentially agreeing as the NSA/CIA work together often and in secret ala Stuxnet.


What about ONI? They invented TOR.


It’s a math heavy problem.

Who employs the most mathematicians?

Tor was contracted out to MIT grads, the need came from the navy, but they didn’t have the ability internally to make it happen (and also wanted it to be public so it wasn’t just intel operatives using it which would identify them).


Occam's razor in this case is most likely true


Isn't occam's razor that he's just some guy who doesn't like being famous


Tell me you never been to a bar without telling me you never been to a bar. Bars are usually a huge hot or not (well, parties in general). People are talking and gossiping about each other the whole time. At worst you only be talked about as well.


The college was being abusive and they probably cannot take your phone and delete your stuff. What an awful thing to happen. By the way, the dean was not being nice by visiting you, don't go through Stockholm Syndrome, he was checking on you because he knew what he did was wrong.


IIT Delhi is in India so I'm not sure what the law looks like there, but yeah a university physically stealing an adult's phone and deleting his personal photos would definitely be illegal in the states.

I wonder if Delhi is the equivalent of a one-party or two-party consent state in the US? If it's one-party then OP recording their conversation wasn't even illegal.


Two-Party consent.

And just like Zucc he is shielded by privilege - his father's a senior bureaucrat in the MoD who attended the NDA.

Additionally, based on the comments on iitsocial, a large number of users were commenting how it was devolving into a doxxing mill.

Doesn't matter, he'll land on his feet given his familial background.

And this is why my parents immigrated to the US in the 1990s and I remain grateful for that.


Defamation is illegal in India, so a defamation platform would be problematic.


With laws such as the Brazilian one or the one proposed in New York, I am curious to know what will be the future for computing. On one hand, forbidding and limiting people from using computers as they wish is somewhat impossible, as too many computers that don't have restrictions have already been produced. You can always use old hardware and, with open source projects, fork an old version that will respect your right to compute. At some point though it will be a problem as hardware no longer works and software becomes incompatible with everything. The thing is that those who will probably be doing it mostly are people that already grew accustomed to not live in an Orwellian state, while, on the other hand, newer generations will all be using new systems with these restrictions, as if they were normal. The smart ones will find ways of circumventing it (as if it wouldn't be hard to get your parents CC and verify it as if you were over 18).

Given that, they will be computing in a restrictive and controlled environment. I feel sorry for them.

I am going to college (Computer Science) as an older student with previous experience in programming, and it never ceases to amaze me that the current generation of students doesn't think out of the box and is completely dependent on ChatGPT. We all suffered from conditioning from governments and corporations throughout the years, but it is accelerating at an alarming rate.

Acts like this (the one from Montana) are positive, but unfortunate that they simply have to exist and somewhat irrelevant when the big dogs (California, New York and whole countries such as Australia) approve legislation that will promptly be followed by most companies/projects, which will in turn force this way of things happening everywhere else.


This won't touch age verification and surveillance laws, it's not meant to protect people, it's meant to protect the interests of capital


Probably one applies for individuals while the other, as described, applies for infrastructure.


The difficulties of the US immigration system is one of the reasons that made me give up of the US. I (unfortunately) moved to the US when I was younger on a tourist visa and had an overstay. After realizing I didn't have many options to become a legal resident, I gave up. Too hard to navigate it. Nowadays I live in the Netherlands, with my second citizenship (from another EU country). A lot easier. It feels quite contradictory that a country that has its history tied to immigration has a worst immigration system than countries that historically are not so tied to immigration.


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