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Two birds with one stone thing maybe?

How would you describe the difference between them?

Don’t worry I’m sure there’s a few products without copilot integration still. They’ll get to them before too long.

I knew flappy bird was a bigger deal than it got credit for. Didn’t realize it was agi until just now.

No product is bug free. Are all products worth using?

"No product worth using is bug free" is not the same statement as "all bug free products are worth using". Come on man, this is basic logic.

You’re right. But your statement was that no product worth using is bug free. I said that no software exists that is without bugs. Your statement uses the presence of bugs to indicate a product is worth using. But since all software has bugs, that applies to every product ever made. It doesn’t have any discriminating power. So it’s not fallacious on its face but it’s not useful either, and that’s what I was trying to point out.

> Your statement uses the presence of bugs to indicate a product is worth using.

This is not correct; "If a product is worth using, then it has bugs." (P→Q) does not imply its converse "If a product has bugs, then it is worth using." (Q→P). Buginess is presented as a necessary condition of being worth using, not a sufficient one.

It does, however, imply "If a product has no bugs, then it is not worth using.".


If a product has no bugs, it is not sufficiently ambitious to be worth using!

To be clear, my statement is that "No product worth using is bug free" (which is what dpark said) does not mean the same as "all bug free products are worth using" (which is what your response to dpark implied).

That “pointing out” is, itself, “not useful either.”

> It doesn’t have any discriminating power.

That was exactly my point. The presence of bugs in a product (in this case Apple Maps) does not mean it should not ship. “No open bugs” cannot be the criteria for whether a product is ready to ship.


> “No open bugs” cannot be the criteria for whether a product is ready to ship.

I think you mean, should not.


The hard looped animations are so painful to look at

You're not learning, though. So much of learning is going down the wrong path, realizing it's wrong, and retaining what you learned from that wrong path and realizing its applicability in the future. Being able to immediately find the correct answer doesn't teach you anything, it allows you to memorize the correct answer for this situation. It expands the depth of your knowledge graph (assuming you remember the answer) but you don't expand the breadth.

Proximity doesn’t automatically result in interaction, though. If every one of those 100 people get in their private mobile room every time they leave their private mobile room there is no chance for any of them to interact.

Amaze! Amaze! Amaze!

One is making implicit assumptions based on data available to it. The other is literally saying "hey they're right here at this time". At least adtech has _some_ level of obfuscation to it.

But I'm with you both suck.


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