Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit | jryio's commentslogin

Reminds me of Zed's setting { "disable_ai": true } [1]

Glad it's an option be it for regulatory compliance, security, privacy, or any combination of the three.

[1]: https://zed.dev/blog/disable-ai-features


Firefox also has a setting like this, although I think it's even nicer in that it makes everything (current and future) AI default to opt-out, but still lets you opt in to specific use cases if you want.

Firefox took an awfully long time to get that global setting. It was clear that Mozilla Corp hoped they might be able to push AI services as a revenue generator, before the AI pushback.

Zed is one of the best editors I've ever seen, I always worried the mention of AI would put off people who are missing out on a truly amazing editor.

The thing that really puts people off about Zed is "VC-funded"

Hacker News is not for you then.

There is a healthy dose of VC skepticism here. HN is here for that.

I think they meant that ycombinator is literally a VC shop

So if being VC funded puts you off an editor, being VC funded may also put you off ycombinator.com


Yes, indeed it does. I didn't feel this way until I worked for a YC-backed startup tho. I mean, YC is the first to admit that not everything needs to be VC funded and some things just aren't good fit for that funding model. I think a code editor is one of them.

> Yes, indeed it does. I didn't feel this way until I worked for a YC-backed startup tho.

Same, same.

Nothing made me skeptical about the tech industry like working for a VC-backed startup. Ugh.


> I mean, YC is the first to admit that not everything needs to be VC funded and some things just aren't good fit for that funding model. I think a code editor is one of them.

Fully agree. I also feel like a lot of companies do not need to be on the stock market, especially if they're reasonably profitable, feels like the stock market is where you go to let go of more of your company just to get rid of the VCs whom you owe a lot of money to.


I remember when I was learning about entrepreneurship in college I was baffled by their insistence of an “exit strategy”. The idea just seemed so foreign to me. See I naively thought the point of starting a business was to do the business, not to not do it and sit next to a pile of money instead. Silly me.

It's rare to find so many grazing in their natural habit, so it's a great place for vc-watching.

It did, verifiably here. Based on their own marketing, I thought it an alternative to Codex, not Codium.

Knowledge of this setting has shifted my perspective considerably.

edit: not enough to ditch Sublime, however.



Zed is a durable piece of software, rather than the current trend of cheap disposable software. Regardless of whether humans or agents use a tool like this, durability is a benefit for both.

Congrats to the team


It has only been around for a few years.

They've been in development longer than the product has been public.

1-3 in stealth if I remember correctly


Do the work for us...

If anyone was wondering ... it's racist

Unsurprisingly the texts written up until that time were dominated by such individuals which is tragic for LLM training if you think about it.

The voiceless groups or fringe opinions which we take as normative today do not appear.

Does this encourage us to write in the present such that we influence the models in perpetuity?


Voiceless groups do not appear in the training data? How could they, they are voiceless. You think the voiceless people are represented in todays training data? They cannot they are voiceless.

Nothing tragic about using data from a time period.

Common words used in 1900s are labeled racist now. I doubt anyone was wondering if they filtered those words for modern safe wordx.


I'd be more worried if words from that era were fully aligned with present day notions of morality. Wouldn't that indicate a certain stagnation & lack of progress?

Let us hope, 100 years from now, there will be people who look back unkindly on us.


As Proudhon said, "I dream of a society where I would be guillotined as a reactionary."

>The voiceless groups or fringe opinions which we take as normative today do not appear.

Times are different. Anybody with an internet connection can "publish" their thoughts and perspective online. LLMs scrape all of this. Modern datasets like CommonCrawl capture a vastly wider spectrum of humanity than a printing press ever could. The pre-1930 model acts as a time capsule of "gatekept publishing", but modern LLMs are trained on the democratized web.

>Does this encourage us to write in the present such that we influence the models in perpetuity?

I noticed a bunch of LLM-powered Reddit accounts praising products/services in dead threads. Or one bot posting a setup question, then a few other bots responding with praise / questions about a specific product in response. I don't know why they're doing this but I'm beginning to suspect it's something like this (get this positive sentiment into the datasets for the next generation of LLMs).


10 years ago people might had cared about your whining, not anymore (thank god)

one day we'll have SOTA models trained like this one and there's nothing you can do about it :^)

> OpenAI has contracted to purchase an incremental $250B of Azure services, and Microsoft will no longer have a right of first refusal to be OpenAI’s compute provider.

Azure is effectively OpenAI's personal compute cluster at this scale.


What fraction of Azure compute does OpenAI represent? (Does the $250bn commitment have a time period? Is it legally binding?)

Azure did $75B last quarter.

That article doesn't give a timeframe, but most of these use 10 years as a placeholder. I would also imagine it's not a requirement for them to spend it evenly over the 10 years, so could be back-loaded.

OpenAI is a large customer, but this is not making Azure their personal cluster.


I wonder how this figure was settled. Is it based on consumer pricing? Can't Microsoft and OpenAI just make a number up, aside from a minimum to cover operating costs? When is the number just a marketing ploy to make it seem huge, important and inevitable (and too big to fail)?

I find it strange that you've anthropomorphized Claude but not ChatGPT seemingly based on one having a human name and the other not

Exactly - cooperation is not incentivized properly

Just another disposable piece of software maintained by a single person that does 80% of what other apps do but worse.

Max lifespan 2 years


Please cut this out. You really don't want to live in a world where individuals are discouraged from trying to build things that are good.

If you want something to stick around: you have to use and pay for it.


You're right. We should absolutely only rely on "Ask sales for price" closed-source software from megacorps, that get worse on every release, and get sunset anyway when the funding runs out.

I hAvE a FeW qUaLmS wItH tHiS aPp

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224


But if they ever choose to decommission it, they have the chance to do the funniest thing:

https://scryfall.com/card/plst/INV-156/obliterate


unacceptable comment. hacker news is misunderstood as a toxic community because of fellas like you. have some dignity.

Of all the things to judge this on, you chose the most ridiculous one. Why shouldn’t a project like this exist just because there are “bigger” alternatives out there?

If youre gonna shut this one down, at the very least do it for the right reasons such as the fact that this is a webwrapper—absolutely disgusting, either go native or don’t bother shoving your webpage into a browser-container and calling it what it is not (an app).


Some people...

You do realize that would have once described GCC and Linux, right?

Of Linux, yes. Of GCC, no. From the very beginning there was multiple authors and the project was a mishmash of several other projects.

This feels like an unethical release of a model. They've opened a can of worms without investing in defense first.

Anthropic announced their capabilities in advanced, issued a private release, then put up $100M in credits to Fortune 500 companies and OSS projects to secure themselves.

OpenAI sees that, makes a model equally capable at exploiting vulnerabilities, then released it to the pubic with no equivalent program [1]

[1]: https://www.anthropic.com/glasswing


Their 'Preparedness Framework'[1] is 20 pages and looks ChatGPT generated, I don't feel prepared reading it.

https://cdn.openai.com/pdf/18a02b5d-6b67-4cec-ab64-68cdfbdde...


Consider applying for YC's Summer 2026 batch! Applications are open till May 4

Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: