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but... none of this justifies hiding price info...?

I mean, it would only justify being expensive


well people want to finish their work and go home, that's why

I know HNers don't like "surveillance everywhere", but...

if you're some law enforcement, every chance to get info means hours/days saved on your work... so you reach for the "easy-way": if you can get comms of a drug gang, you can identify who belongs to that gang (instead of risking their own life by actually 'joining' the gang)

But... some do cross their lines (eg watching comms of their ex, getting paid by political actors to listen over opponents, etc)

it's not like law enforcements are 100% bad guys, but things are "complicated"


It's mainly a problem of consequences and accountability. The people who suffer unjustly from unlawful surveillance and overreach are usually unable to do anything about it, and they are assumed to be criminals anyways so nobody cares. Punishments for violating the law are nearly nonexistent for "law enforcement", so a culture of impunity is formed that cannot be easily fixed. Anybody trying to enforce the rules would run into both corrupt and noncorrupt noncompliance, just like trying to get fast food workers to follow health and safety guidelines. It's probably impossible to reform and only a wholesale teardown and replacement without keeping anyone contaminated by the existing culture has a chance.

hmm... maybe a 'write lock' on the directory? though this will become more hairy without timeouts/etc...

To the extent that locking exists in posix it is various degrees of useless and broken. And as far as I know while BSDs have extensions which make some use cases workable Linux is completely hopeless.

hmm isn't the whole thing a continuation of "revenge against hamas's attack on Oct 7th 2023" ?

hamas being a proxy to iran, I don't get why people think iran as some "peace loving, innocent country"

well, are they?

raping/killing some *foreigners* and displaying their bodies as parade...

well that's not very "peace loving and innocent" is it?


When you make a ceasefire and then strike first, that’s called being the aggressor.

How many civilians has Israel killed since oct 7? When is it enough?

Israel killed >50k civilians since October 7 between all the conflicts

Revenge is not a justification for destroying civilizations.

Israelis also rape, kill, and do other vile things to prisoners, innocent or guilty, who they imprison with or without charge.


> When you make a ceasefire and then strike first, that’s called being the aggressor.

Oh boy, let me tell you about October 7th. Attacks by Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, and Iran followed. Oh, and half a dozen other Palestinian groups were involved in 10/7 but they don't like to talk about that.

> How many civilians has Israel killed since oct 7? When is it enough?

Probably not too far off from how many Iran has killed in the same timeframe (of course, they are killing their own). Iran killed 30,000 of their own just this year.

And just so we're clear, Iran supported Hezbollah in Lebanon and Syria, and the Houthis in Yemen, both or whom are responsible for easily 10x as many deaths as Israel (total). The civil wars in Lebanon and Syria left millions dead, and the one in Yemen also resulted in hundreds of thousands dead.


> Israelis also rape, kill, and do other vile things to prisoners, innocent or guilty, who they imprison with or without charge.

well but do israelis parade their dead rape victims openly?

> When you make a ceasefire and then strike first

well that's between trump and iran? did netanyahu agree?

I agree that netanyahu is being a dick here: he should have focused on iran, instead of invading lebanon. That alone is a huge political/PR mistake

but... how's that ceasefire related? is israel a proxy of usa? does Trump control israel directly?

Ethically, the israel politicians goes at great length NOT to damage civilians: the walkie-talkie bomb is a classic example of "try to kill all the militants WITHOUT carpet bombing"

(though they failed to "kill all" with that scheme, and... well they did bomb a lot after that)


> well but do israelis parade their dead rape victims openly?

1) why is that an important distinction?

2) but since you asked, they do, western media just refuse to show it but all you need to do is follow a bunch of israeli instagram accounts and you'll see more than enough sooner rather than later


> 2) but since you asked, they do, western media just refuse to show it but all you need to do is follow a bunch of israeli instagram accounts and you'll see more than enough sooner rather than later

woah... big claims here! maybe you should post source?


> well but do israelis parade their dead rape victims openly?

Ah, this is where you draw the line?


well where do YOU draw the line then?

One side openly tries to do maximum death on everyone including infants (eg. fire random missiles, intifada, and the oct 7th attack)

The other side at least tried their best NOT to attack back (expensive missile defense systems) or at least kill only the militants selectively (walkietalkie boomboom)

I mean, you should be ashamed of even comparing israel vs iran/hamas/etc


> One side openly tries to do maximum death on everyone including infants

That would be israel with special focus on journalists and doctors

> The other side at least tried their best NOT to attack back

As idiotic as it is, Iran shown more restraint then Israel and USA against other countries. Internaly not, but ouyside yes. They played tit for tat.


> Iran shown more restraint then Israel and USA against other countries > They played tit for tat.

like... firing missiles at UAE...? launching drone to dubai tower?

did India do anything to iran to get its ships fired upon?

blocking hormuz strait... that alone was enough to trigger global coalition -- though due to Trump's trade dick move to allies... no one sent troops...

if it's "tit for tat", then why does iran make so many un-related countries suffer (eg india?)

well simple: iran is the new pirate of 21st century. nothing more or less.

if anyone says "that's because US attacked", then if I got hit by a car, can I have my revenge on nearby pedestrians?


Those “doctors and journalists” have repeatedly been shown to have second jobs working for Hamas, wearing Hamas uniforms, and having Hamas funerals.

yeah it's too many generic depth...

there ought to be a crate that handles "Vec<Rc<RefCell<..." part (maybe https://crates.io/crates/orx-concurrent-vec ? haven't tried it yet)


well oil companies funded "lead fuels are safe" research...

...and it really did backfire (in public relations, politics, etc)

now... I don't think they can actually fund 'research-for-their-profit' -- I mean, would you believe "petro is good for earth" research coming from oil companies, even after the 'lead is good or neutral' research?


Yes.

Not uncritically, but if the research presents a logically consistent hypothesis, and evidence supporting it, then it would be worth following up on with independent groups and if it remains consistent to scrutiny then it should be accepted.

That's how science works.


well the bravery for robbing a bank deserves some respect, not jail time

sexual assulters deserve respect due to their manliness and will-to-action

hmm can't see what's wrong here? well that's your intelligence level


hmm... but that doesn't guarantee that the customer will buy from "my main brand"

rather, if I know A is a "family brand" of B(rooks bro?), then I'll try to NOT buy from A, and buy from C/D/E/F/G/etc instead


> Oh I needed to disclose user data in order to make more money

hmm maybe they should've paywalled?


> As long as they fit into the same place in their worldview

but... "same place in their worldview" model goes awry when things to slightly off course

most people are ok with calling rgb(255,0,0) red, but some will argue with rgb(200, 50, 20)


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