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With everyone doing online “identity” verifications, all these details and more are already available to data brokers. Persona.. I mean Palantir even has a short video of you from your “liveness check” to go with the scan of your ID.

> its my manager's job to supervise

No it isn’t. The fault with your logic is that you assume people work because they’re supervised.


If I was hiring anyone for a job over 75k usd I should know very well that they can produce with very few touch points. I would also expect my team to speak up if someone wasn't producing. I wouldn't care about hours worked because they are a salary employee. I would care that the team could contact them and they contributed meaningfully to projects.

So your thing is not achieving something, your business is about keeping people busy all day? Hopefully folks like you are leaving the workforce soon.

I think we misunderstood each other. Contributing to projects means achieving something. Obviously if it's sales the goals are different than if it's development. I care about company accomplishments and teams working together.

Has anyone asked Palantir and their many subsidiaries and foundations what they have on Zuck?

I know right, so much pain and horror has been unleashed in the world by Meta… I have zero sympathy for their employees. Someone should’ve said no to developing this tech in the first place but here we are.

Former meta employee.

It's not like people have an unlimited number of places to work, even if they have Meta on their resume. Many of my colleagues (and myself included) had struggled in the job market in the past before landing at Meta. If it's work for Meta, or suffer more tumult in the hiring market; it's easy to understand why many might decide to take the offer even with the moral implications. I used to bring up politics in the office with coworkers and many people are simply unaware of the consequences of the company's products. There are a few different categories that these people fall into, but the main ones I saw in the office:

1) Chinese H1B holders who are happy to be working in the US at all, and generally apolitical (or view anything as better than the status quo of where they come from)

2) Just normal people who are interested in their own lives and have never been trained to think about the world in a big picture way (some overlap between 1&2 exist of course)

It's very western of us to always be tracking the conseqentiality of our actions even when we're just the cog in a wheel at BigCo. I think that it's the right thing to do, but this sort of reasoning largely absent in eastern cultures, or even for some in the west—even among those who are well educated. It's kind of hard to blame individuals when they either are rightfully consumed by worrying about their own welfare or are for whatever reason not as seminally hyperaware or woke as we can be in the west. Growing up I liked imposing my political philosophies onto everyone; maturity is understanding that even objectively righteous values are only useful for the right types of minds.

On the contrary, once someone has truly been made aware of the ramifications of their actions; it's more difficult for me to extend my sympathy to them. I consider mark and priscilla to be fully implicated based on their exposure to the harm that they're actively, willingly, knowingly causing. Other employees may never get that memo, though, people obviously avoid political talk in the workplace.


What Meta does (and here I want to be clear that you can replace Meta with Apple, Microsoft, Google, Palantir...) is eventually public knowledge, profusely discussed even on HN. This means substantial amount of people have been aware, for decades.

And even if "just quit" is not an option - why not push for policy to regulate these corps? Why is it that after all this time, these same corps now also own at least 1 branch of the US government?

And when the EU/Australia/China.. tries to regulate punish those corps, suddenly everyone comes out on HN to explain protectionism, overreach, some -ism, and "actually we need to give them the benefit of the doubt" etc... why not support that momentum?


> And when the EU/Australia/China.. tries to regulate punish those corps, suddenly everyone comes out on HN to explain protectionism, overreach, some -ism, and "actually we need to give them the benefit of the doubt" etc... why not support that momentum?

I really, really want to believe it's bot warfare. But there is this running theme of HN posters who think because something is _legal_, or because you can point at it historically and go "acktually it's always been like this", it's therefore _moral_ and we should not ever push back on the excesses of these awful fucking companies.


> And even if "just quit" is not an option - why not push for policy to regulate these corps? Why is it that after all this time, these same corps now also own at least 1 branch of the US government?

Because money is the current representation and approximation of power. It used to be "the yams," but now it's money.


You remind me of my former, younger self and I applaud the appeal you are making to our better selves. All I'm stating is simply that many people don't care, or can't be made to care. But further, there is a pontificating nature about the way you reason about these workers. In the case of my colleagues at Meta, many feel that they are so fortunate to be able to work in the US at all. Even if they did care, it would be rational for them to continue working there against their moral qualms anyways. Because no one would choose to go back to their home country and do the same work for a paltry fraction of the pay.

> It's very western of us to always be tracking the conseqentiality of our actions even when we're just the cog in a wheel

An awful lot of Eastern philosophy would disagree with you.


Not speaking philosophically. I'm just talking about my experience on the ground working with chinese (as a fellow chinese). Some of them are interested in global affairs, certainly, but I find it to be more common from people raised in the west.

Was quite tired when i wrote this; just want to be on the record saying that i don't necessarily think that people in the east haphazardly just do whatever they're told. there's more nuance to it than that; but i just observe generally that in the east there isn't a culture of political motivation or organizing, or democracy at all. So it's not at all surprising when people don't assign any political meaning to their work—even in the cases where one so overtly exists.

> It's kind of hard to blame individuals when they either are rightfully consumed by worrying about their own welfare or are for whatever reason not as seminally hyperaware or woke as we can be in the west.

If you care that your employer is being unethical (such as storing your keystrokes), that's being hyperaware, woke?

I know the definition of woke can stretch like taffy, but it now seems dislodged from its origins concerning race and gender and is now just a vague disparagement of any speaking up to injustice.


I'm not referring to that, obviously; I'm referring to Metas impacts worldwide.

It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon him not understanding it

This has nothing to do with politics, or political talk. People's complaints are about dishonesty, abuse, and manipulation on the part of Meta.

I don’t get the surprise or discontent. People hooking themselves up to a paid SaaS that only two vendors can offer (Anthropic and OpenAI), no competition or regulation to speak of… of course they’ll do whatever they want with their plans.

Hope you can still resume working on your projects without AI.


> Hope you can still resume working on your projects without AI.

How often does technology really move backwards? I can already run a decent local model on a spec’d out MacBook and for better or worse electronics/computers moves one direction (with minor supply chain hiccups along the way notwithstanding)


Losing trust on them not rug pulling users

If anyone was paying any attention to how corporations run, I don't see how they could have believed this would go any differently. Seriously.

If one doesn't want rug-pulls, one signals their policy makers to create regulation to prevent it. Otherwise it's just... uncapped capitalism or what's the name

This valuation is absurd. Perhaps a year ago- sure, but there have been so many iterations of this “kind of editor” since then, not to mention countless alternatives.

So for me it’s more of a data deal - Elon buying himself some insight into codebases and real dev usage patterns? Oh finally someone to use his dirty data centres


Cursor is still the best I’ve used are there others I should try?

I've been using Kilo Code (VS Code Plugin) for the last few days, and it does most of what I liked in Cursor without tying me to their particular subscription.

That said, people are increasingly migrating to CLI tools (Claude Code if you like the Claude models, Pi Agent if you want something that's highly customizable, Crush if you want something fun), or GUI tools that are less code-first (Codex GUI).


What makes Crush fun?

It has a CLI component and a very flashy TUI application. The TUI has lots of effort put in to layouts, color, and really pushing the boundaries of what a TUI can be. It looks a bit “hacker in a 2000s movie” except with pink instead of green as the dominant color.

Totally not for everybody though. I can see why some people would hate it.


People keep saying this and they don't understand how businesses work.

Cursor has 1B in enterprise revenue. It doesn't matter if people can clone their product, those deals don't move slowly


> Cursor has 1B in enterprise revenue.

That' all well and good and they had astounding growth rates but doesn't mean much. And 1B in ARR is not _that_ much in comparison. Also, reportedly they spend all their revenue and they have no control over the spend-side. The models they use will very likely get much more expensive. All the foundation model companies have a competing product. Cursor has the first mover advantage, but that will only help then so much. There have been plenty companies who grew fast, had huge revenue, but failed in the end, because they never got profitable. That's also in the cards for Cursor, if they don't fundamentally change their business model


Put 1B into a better product and 10B into marketing. If you can’t beat their 1B in revenue, the market for making your money back on the Cursor acquisition also isn’t there.

Oh finally! Ternus is at least fun to look at during keynotes so we have that to look forward to.

And to think just a few days ago we got that photo from the Moon, putting in perspective just how tiny the Earth is in the grand scheme of things. We need more “for all of humanity” mindset instead of this “barbaric tribes beat each other over the head for sticky oil”

> just how tiny the Earth is in the grand scheme of things

In the grand scheme of things: humans are doing the granding, the scheming, and the things. Earth has a tiny bit of something to do with that.


I think you'll find it's really hard to lord over a big map on a table if you don't have the Earth to put the table on.

Boss just sent out an email with a company policy update. We're still expected to clock in even if the world is uninhabitable

Quick reminder, the only humans to ever make it to the moon did it due to “barbaric tribes showing who’s better”.

It wasn’t bankrolled with billions for the good of society.

Being naive is fun, but being realistic about the species we are is better. And it seems we can leverage that to land on the moon. So it’s working as intended.


> Quick reminder, the only humans to ever make it to the moon did it due to “barbaric tribes showing who’s better”.

Weird to quote that when that's not what the GP said and appears to be a paraphrase that loses quite a bit of specificity and so misses the point:

> We need more “for all of humanity” mindset instead of this “barbaric tribes beat each other over the head for sticky oil”

Being realistic about the species is useful, but let's not be disingenuous for imaginary rhetorical points.


I slightly corrected it not to trick op. But to clarify their position was naive. Sorry about that.

It still is naive no matter the quote though.

It’s also naive to dump down the conflict to being over oil. Oil is being used as leverage. But it is not the cause of it.


What is the cause then?

Roughly, trying to keep it with minimal judgement, as hard as it is: - since 79 Iran is marking the US and Israel as enemy countries. (The US due to the 50s revolution, Israel because of the Palestinian problem?) - Iran has been developing nuclear weapons, and using dangerous rhetoric threatening those counties, form Iran perspective this is a defensive measure. - after recent happenings in the Middle East Iran directly attacked Israel (non direct attacks have been commonplace for a while now) making Israel stand to w 12 day war. - the conclusion of this war put both sides in an arms race. - finally, the Iranian protests ending in supposedly 30k dead citizens within about a week changed the perspective of western intelligence about the risk of Iran. A regime willing to kill so many of its citizens and building nuclear weapons is a problem hard to ignore.

Negotiations were clearly Stuck between the sides, forcing the obvious next stage.

This is simplified. But I think touches the core events.


I don't know why this is flagged, just ran a query on my Mac and indeed, the anthropic extension was deployed for all sorts of (installed and imaginary) chromium browsers.

I've never seen or approved a prompt from Claude if I want any of this to be installed and I've never seen or approved a prompt from macOS that Claude is asking permission to mess around with other apps (though `Application Support` is probably not protected for non-sandboxed apps).

I don't think we should normalise or try to diminish the importance of good security practices. Apps that randomly rewrite how other apps your computer work are generally in the category of malware (and here we're not even considering Claude's apparently ability to execute local instructions based on random text it finds online).


it's probably flagged because it rubs some people in the wrong direction.

agree this seems credible concern, and should not be flagged. @dang

Coming from a company that makes infrastructure out of a view layer / vDOM library - I think anyone relying on Vercel has only themselves to blame.

That and also the CEO posting a photo of him posing with a war criminal. Using let alone relying on Vercel baffles me.

Which one? There's so many these days I've lost track.

It feels like the political forces underpinning the software industry are coming to light but it seems like there are two opposing forces now instead of just one.

It's interesting that Next is becoming so popular when LLMs supposedly have a capability to work with all these other frameworks that don't create a dependency on something like Vercel.

You don't have to use Vercel to run NextJS though

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